# Verification Datasets Meeting 2016-07-13 Minutes

**URL:** <https://www.rubin.community/t/verification-datasets-meeting-2016-07-13-minutes/930>\
**Category:** Data Management\
**Tags:** verificationdataset\
**Created:** [July 13, 2016, 6:17pm UTC](https://www.rubin.community/t/verification-datasets-meeting-2016-07-13-minutes/930 "2016-07-13T18:17:03Z")\
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**Post date:** [July 13, 2016, 6:17pm UTC](https://www.rubin.community/t/verification-datasets-meeting-2016-07-13-minutes/930/1 "2016-07-13T18:17:03Z")

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**Verification Datasets telecon**  
Attendees: Simon, David, MWV  
Regrets: Colin

**Simon:**

- trying to make a repository that is agnostic to camera
- put files in repository and run processCcd on it (must have previously ISRed)
- just need camera info for ISR
- need to know variance pretty well otherwise CR rejection falls apart  
if background subtracted then you need to give the noise level (scalar)
- just assumes a single 2D grid of flux values, no variance or mask plane, but could add that in
- giving people the ability to use processCcd like SExtractor
- it internally bulids the variance (using gain, config parameter) and mask plane  
can also set lower threshold for “good” values, also needs to know the noise level
- uses repository, can use Butler to get the source catalog, etc.
- could actually hide the butler by adding a little bit of code that checks if the  
file exists in the repository and if not then it adds it
- currently a branch under SimonKrughoff obs\_file  
tickets/DM-6924 branch of both obs\_file and pipe\_tasks  
[c.l.o post](http://www.rubin.community/t/running-processfile-with-lsst-stack-v12-0/904/17) about this
- probably useful for the collaborations

**David:**

- had meeting with PanSTARRS people at MPIA and discussed QA, mostly done after the fact to see what issues there are (forensic mode)

- Simon, discussion of prompt processing, send out alerts on 99.9% of images that aren’t corrupted by any of the processing

- image also needs to be scientifically useable, who makes this choice

- maybe use OCS flags?

- need red light/green light on Level 1 products

- NCSA is putting up a verification cluster and they wanted to know what workflow people want,  
slurm and condor a possibility

- SQuaRE doesn’t want to much effort on developing a new workflow system

- David, want to run PSFEx on COSMOS to see if the PSF model and photometry is better

- CR, problems on DECam COSMOS images, but SK ran some it found ~80% of the CRs

- is CRblaster work better, CP uses it to identify and mask them  
should compare LSST to CRblaster

- MWV suggested having a CI test to find a certain number of CRs in an image

- issues with variance plane can cause problems with the CR software, was an issue with  
CP-processed DECam data in the past, wanted to double-check with LSST ISR but never quite got there

**MWV:**

- planning improvement for LDM-151 on SDQA
- a lot of pieces in SDQA still need to be designed

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CRblaster uses the LACosmic algorithm, which is simply Laplacian edge detection. I believe our CR code does essentially the same thing. It may just need a front-end that correctly estimates the variance and PSF, and a bit of parameter tweaking (e.g., the background subtraction scale). I also found on HSC that setting `cond3_fac2=0.4` helps.
