# Updates to the Rubin Early Science Plan, information for people writing research proposals

**URL:** <https://www.rubin.community/t/updates-to-the-rubin-early-science-plan-information-for-people-writing-research-proposals/7154>\
**Category:** Early Science\
**Created:** [October 24, 2022, 4:04pm UTC](https://www.rubin.community/t/updates-to-the-rubin-early-science-plan-information-for-people-writing-research-proposals/7154 "2022-10-24T16:04:22Z")\
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**Author:** ![drphilmarshall](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/www.rubin.community/drphilmarshall/32/946_2.png) [@drphilmarshall](https://www.rubin.community/u/drphilmarshall)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2022, 4:04pm UTC](https://www.rubin.community/t/updates-to-the-rubin-early-science-plan-information-for-people-writing-research-proposals/7154/1 "2022-10-24T16:04:22Z")

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Dear all,

Please see the new version (v2.1) of technote RTN-011, “Rubin Observatory Plans for an Early Science Program,” now available at [https://rtn-011.lsst.io](https://rtn-011.lsst.io) and citeable at [https://doi.org/10.5281/zenodo.5683848](https://doi.org/10.5281/zenodo.5683848).

These updates in this new version are of general interest, but they are also designed to support those of you who are writing research grant proposals this year (e.g. to the NSF AAG grants call, or the various institutional fellowships on offer this Fall).

You’ll see some new data release milestone data ranges relative to those we showed at the PCW: these capture our current understanding of the Rubin schedule uncertainties in full.

You’ll also see the very high level plan for the commissioning observations (that will feed into the DP1 and DP2 data previews) that we showed at the PCW, so that you can not only plan your early science research with DP1, DP2, DR1, and the early science alert stream, but also cite the Rubin plan correctly.

We’ve set up Leanne’s Early Science talk at LSST@Europe4 to serve as a “PI Briefing” that will also hopefully help the proposal-writers among you. [Click here to download a preview of Leanne’s slides](https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1OxmfWUlIkV8lCHS6LUT2fl5d_iuQmP8g3QahkrmTd5Y/export/pdf) (with the caveat that she may yet tweak them before taking the stage, of course).

You’ll see that they contain guidance on how to cite RTN-011 and the “[Rubin data Products, Abridged](https://www.lsst.org/about/dm/data-products)” slide deck, and also some suggestions for how to make your proposals as compelling as possible.

Any questions can be posted as replies in this topic thread (below), or as new topics in the “[Science - Early Science](http://www.rubin.community/c/sci/early-science/53)” category of the Forum.

You can also get some in-person support for your early science research grant proposal: all are welcome to join the drop-in early science Q&A session on Wed Nov 2 2022 at 08:00am US Pacific Daylight Time. [Click here for connection info.](https://forms.gle/MdrN9e3sYn1iG37A9)

Here at Rubin we are rooting for you all, as you get ready for LSST Early Science!

Best wishes,

Phil

_Updated 2022-10-25: to include RTN-011’s v2.1 zenodo DOI URL_

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**Author:** ![MelissaGraham](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/www.rubin.community/melissagraham/32/2549_2.png) [@MelissaGraham](https://www.rubin.community/u/MelissaGraham)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2022, 4:14pm UTC](https://www.rubin.community/t/updates-to-the-rubin-early-science-plan-information-for-people-writing-research-proposals/7154/2 "2022-10-24T16:14:58Z")

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**Author:** ![fed](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/www.rubin.community/fed/32/43_2.png) [@fed](https://www.rubin.community/u/fed)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2022, 9:37pm UTC](https://www.rubin.community/t/updates-to-the-rubin-early-science-plan-information-for-people-writing-research-proposals/7154/3 "2022-11-06T21:37:19Z")

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> [@drphilmarshall](#):
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> “Rubin Observatory Plans for an Early Science Program,” now available at [https://rtn-011.lsst.io](https://rtn-011.lsst.io) and citeable at [Rubin Observatory Plans for an Early Science Program | Zenodo](https://doi.org/10.5281/zenodo.5683848)

Leanne’s LSST@Eu4 can be viewed at [https://youtu.be/\_b\_7oZYRVYE](https://youtu.be/_b_7oZYRVYE)

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**Author:** ![leanne](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/www.rubin.community/leanne/32/622_2.png) [@leanne](https://www.rubin.community/u/leanne)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2022, 6:54pm UTC](https://www.rubin.community/t/updates-to-the-rubin-early-science-plan-information-for-people-writing-research-proposals/7154/4 "2022-11-16T18:54:00Z")

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A new version, v2.2, of technote RTN-011, “Rubin Observatory Plans for an Early Science Program,” has been issued and is available at [https://rtn-011.lsst.io](https://rtn-011.lsst.io/). V2.2 includes clarifications to alert production during commissioning.

This version has been uploaded to Zenodo and citeable at [https://doi.org/10.5281/zenodo.5683848](https://doi.org/10.5281/zenodo.5683848). Note that the Zenodo citation URL is the same as for previous versions; Zenodo will always return the most recent version of a document.

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**Author:** ![mschwamb](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/www.rubin.community/mschwamb/32/3007_2.png) [@mschwamb](https://www.rubin.community/u/mschwamb)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2023, 2:04pm UTC](https://www.rubin.community/t/updates-to-the-rubin-early-science-plan-information-for-people-writing-research-proposals/7154/5 "2023-10-01T14:04:53Z")

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Is there going to be a version of these drop-in sessions or a recorded/streamed information session planned for this year? It would be great to get the dates as early as possible.

Thanks,  
~Meg

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**Author:** ![mschwamb](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/www.rubin.community/mschwamb/32/3007_2.png) [@mschwamb](https://www.rubin.community/u/mschwamb)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2023, 9:57pm UTC](https://www.rubin.community/t/updates-to-the-rubin-early-science-plan-information-for-people-writing-research-proposals/7154/6 "2023-10-12T21:57:11Z")

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I’m hosting a virtual miniSprint for the SSSC in two weeks. If there are sessions planned, it would be great to have dates so I advertise them.

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**Author:** ![MelissaGraham](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/www.rubin.community/melissagraham/32/2549_2.png) [@MelissaGraham](https://www.rubin.community/u/MelissaGraham)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2023, 7:27pm UTC](https://www.rubin.community/t/updates-to-the-rubin-early-science-plan-information-for-people-writing-research-proposals/7154/7 "2023-10-17T19:27:23Z")

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Hi Meg, as far as I know there are no info sessions planned (but I will inquire internally). As you’ve seen, the announcement about the updated schedule has been sent out, and updates to the DOI-citable RTN-011 will be released imminently.

> [@Update of Rubin Observatory Construction Plan / Actualización del Plan de Construcción del Observatorio Rubin](http://www.rubin.community/t/update-of-rubin-observatory-construction-plan-actualizacion-del-plan-de-construccion-del-observatorio-rubin/8003):
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> The Rubin Construction Project is in the process of reoptimizing the sequence of integration activities in light of recent subcomponent delays. In particular, (i) shipment of the Camera has been delayed due to a cryostat vacuum leak that is being investigated and repaired, and (ii) the dome crane on the summit failed and is being repaired. The duration of the dome crane repair is estimated to be approximately 5 weeks, and the delay in Camera shipment is currently estimated to be approximately 4 …

For now the best place for questions is to post them as new Topics here in the Early Science category.

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**Author:** ![leanne](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/www.rubin.community/leanne/32/622_2.png) [@leanne](https://www.rubin.community/u/leanne)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2023, 11:56pm UTC](https://www.rubin.community/t/updates-to-the-rubin-early-science-plan-information-for-people-writing-research-proposals/7154/8 "2023-10-31T23:56:23Z")

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A new version of RTN-011 is out with updated plans for early science following the October schedule workshop. Version 5 of RTN-011 has the same citeable : [https://doi.org/10.5281/zenodo.5683848](https://doi.org/10.5281/zenodo.5683848).
